I got a triple tap kegerator from kegland with that 10% ebay discount so got it for an amazing price.
I have one keg in it but its pouring foam. The fridge is also sticking around 4 to 5C when set to 2C but we have had an incredibly humid week here and its currently in a small room that has been sitting in the low 30s all week. I emailed kegland and sent them some pics of the inside setup and they seemed satisfied that the fridge is operating as it should. The chill plate has ice on it. I am using the supplied beer line which was 5mm id and looked to be 4m long. They suggested to shift the keg away from the right hand wall to assist airflow circulation and to keep the fan always on. I did the keg shift and the fan was constantly on (and directed into the font) and it really hasn't changed temp performance much, the fridge is still hovering around the 4 to 5C range sometimes dipping into 3C. I'm going to hold out on the benefit of the doubt on the very humid conditions at the moment is preventing the fridge from achieving my desired temp.
So first question, who has a kegmaster fridge in brissy; is it able to maintain temperatures of 2C at the moment in this heat wave?
They also suggested that the keg was overcarbed. I did force carb it but I am now periodically releasing the PRV on the keg and after the first few pulls there is barely any pressure escaping the keg - no co2 seems to be escaping the overcarbed beer? Should i take this as a sign that the keg is not overcarbed? But the beer line does contain lots of sections which are gas. I thought that would be a sign of overcarbed beer. I'm confused?
I force carbed 35psi for 30 to 40 seconds. I use to do this when i kegged 5 years back and only overcarbed once.
Set serving pressure to 10 psi but its turned off at the moment. Last night set it to 2 psi to just push a test glass through, all foam and then half a glass of beer after foam receded. Beer tastes good at least.
My next keg to go in will be set and forget at 10 psi.
I measured the spare beer line (got identical sections), its 4m.
Just to clarify, you tried pouring at 10PSI too? How was it then?
Set your reg to 10PSI, pressurise the keg, and then close the CO2 bottle. Don't adjust the reg itself, just close the bottle. You'll know the beer is overcarbed if the gauge showing the 10PSI setting increases over time. Let's start by ruling that out.
There are calculators around to determine proper line length but I assume if they sent you 4m for that specific kegerator then that's the appropriate length already.
How are you checking temp with a thermo or does it have an inbuilt gauge? I can’t see you being over carbed with 35psi for 40 seconds I sometimes leave mine at 40-50psi overnight and I don’t overcarb! Are the taps and font cold? Does it pour just foam for consecutive pours?
Last Edit: Feb 17, 2018 14:07:23 GMT 10 by Lethaldog
Going off fridge temp led. Should i check the beer temp? Font temp? I have digital and ir thermometers on hand. The shake and roll method at 35psi. I didnt think it could be overcarbed either. the font fan causes condensation on the font but i wouldn't say its chilly. I pour a few glasses and all foam.
mmmm, the reg is now saying 12psi, it is creeping up a little, set to 10psi 45minutes ago. Maybe it is overcarbed? Check again in a bit.
IR Thermo saying 500ml bottle of wort bottom of fridge 1C, chiller plate -7C and outward facing surface of keg 25C(?!). The keg feels quite cold, i wonder if IR thermo reading reflection off keg's shiny stainless surface. This thermometer does show odd readings at the start of mash (foam?).
Digital thermo left in fridge for 5 minutes at 5C. Rubber top of keg and disconnects also reading 5C.
I'd pour a beer but i want to continue the reg pressure readings for a bit longer.
Similarly it's not ideal to trust its readings of liquid. Get yourself a good calibrated thermometer for that.
If your reg creeps up in readings, you're likely dealing with overcarbonation. Purge and wait, repeat until it no longer creeps above 10PSI. Your ideal pressure level might actually be a little higher than that but at least at 10PSI you will get a decent pour.
Yeah I bought a digital meat stick in thermometer for another data source. the IR seems to give a reading consistent with the robobrew reading when i point it directly into the recirc outflow during the mash. It was consistently 1C lower than the Robobrew temp.
The reg hasn't creeped up in psi any further.
Im think i have an ice pack that may fit into the font, might try sticking in it there.
What taps are they? And are they tight where they meet font. Also check the that the collar nut where the handle is attached isnt too tight. If you have lots of little bubbles in the beer line that can be because its over carbed but also because of temp. With my kegking i upgraded the shanks and font because of the feedback of standard ones was that they pour alot of foam. You should be able to calibrate your temp if it is the same as the series 4 kegking that i have. Pluging the hole at the back where the lines come in is a must. Where is the beerline? If it is towards the front, that could also be your problem.
I am in Brissy and mine pours fine, although i do have flow control taps that i back off to slow down the first pour to cool the tap.
First pour for the day This my kegking version, notice how the beerlines are at the back and gas at the front, well apart from the kids sodastream bottl that i had to borrow because i haven't had my 2 gas bottles filled.
They are ss intertaps and its a series 4 fridge. You mean the gas line hole? I have a gas line into it but will run some blutack around it to seal it. The taps are tight to the font, they don't wriggle at all. I'll loosen the collar a touch. I have a perlick tap i could try and get in the and shift the beer line behind the keg.
Gut feel from the above is temperature. I had similar issues on my keezer recently and putting my lines coiled up down on my kegs made a big difference. Very little (if any) foam now.
So check your keezer temperature and see how that's going, and maybe stash your lines away as ACB has suggested.
If it's still a bit foamy because the keg is over carbed, you can stash your line so it's coiled horizontally on top of your keg, hopefully this will mean any gas that bleeds out of solution will rise to your tap. So you'll get one shot of foam to begin with, but hopefully after this it will be clean cool,beer.
Well i set the fridge to -1C and chucked a glass of tap water in there when i left for that trip to take the kids to the park which was 4 hours ago, the water is now sitting at three degrees. So the bottom of the fridge is quite cold. The sensor on the fridge is still reading 5C. I will calibrate it, the vid said to keep the water in there for 2 days. I did push the lines behind the keg on the chiller plate and rotate the liquid post to the back as well. Figure i should give it a night to have a chance to chill down properly. I did hook up another font tap but same foamy result, thought that at least discounts some debris in the first tap.
Most reports in ss intertaps is that they are very good, only found one US thread on foaming issue, one commentator said his foam issue ended up being debris in the tap. I didnt cc before kegging to resue the yeast slurry for the next brew so its another thing i could check when I'm sure the temperature is sufficiently cold.
I'm thinking i should hook up a bronco tap and keep in the fridge and test pour, maybe that could discount tap and font issues if foam still results. That's a tomorrow job.
ACB is your font covered in condensation? Is it very cold to touch? Mine isn't very cold all over, wondering if font tubing needs cutting down as done in the set up video.
Anyway I really appreciate all the suggestions to solve it, its certainly made me check things I hadn't thought of or read in the manuals and online videos.
I have a series 2 kegerator in a shed in Brisbane and although a little foamy at the start of the pour on a hot afternoon last week the perlick flow controlled taps did the job just fine into chilled glasses (standard practice in summer). I leave my fridge on 3 degrees and the IR thermo reported that the internals of the fridge and keg surfaces were 2-4 degrees. Ambient temp reported by the thermometer I have attached to the top of the font was 38 degrees.
I'd guess that if the kegs are not overcarbonated then the OP's fridge is not functioning properly. It's not in direct sunlight, has a bad seal or is being opened too often to keep cool then I'd be asking for an exchange, especially if it doesn't freeze water when set to 0 or below.
Looking at that pic again, put that beerline behind the keg so it sits in between the keg and the chilling panel.
The only caution I'd offer for this is if to check that it doesn't freeze the beer in the line. I had a slightly dodgy seal when I built my bar (kegerator lines routed into a bar-top font) and it kept freezing my lines near the rear cooling coil until I worked out how to seal it all properly. This caused beer to stop flowing initially and then produce glasses of foam.
A bloke on a Facebook Book group had the same issue. Everyone thought it was overcarbed. Poured foam all the time. He eventually found the oring under the liquid dip tube was not seated properly. When he replaced it, it worked fine.
hophead: Just chuck up a couple of pictures. There 1/4 bsb thread. I do have the other style prv that have the female thread
Oct 29, 2020 15:10:40 GMT 10
happy: I was given a co2 and nitrogen mix bottle and I'm trying to find any info on psi and time to properly carbonate with this mix. Any clues please? Thanks Happy
Sept 30, 2020 19:54:46 GMT 10
creativeboar: Raspberry sour is in secondary :handsintheair:
Sept 25, 2020 17:08:51 GMT 10
miceandgods: Someone is still learning how to forum
Sept 4, 2020 17:17:55 GMT 10
maltjunkie: Smoked ribs and beer is there more to life ...really?
Aug 29, 2020 12:27:16 GMT 10
capsicum: Pitched my first brew after moving house tonight... finally feels like a home
Aug 17, 2020 21:39:21 GMT 10
miceandgods: Drinking beer for science
Aug 13, 2020 17:27:54 GMT 10
Wiggers: Going forum-free for a bit, have fun
Aug 10, 2020 9:03:00 GMT 10
miceandgods: Well that was a mistake...
Aug 7, 2020 6:40:30 GMT 10
maltjunkie: Spent most of the day setting up the Series X kegerator with the Maty Bay font, a bit of stuffing around lining up mounting holes but damn this thing could live in the lounge room it looks so good
Aug 1, 2020 16:20:25 GMT 10
stuee: Hi everyone, excited to be onboard this cool site
Jul 10, 2020 14:33:13 GMT 10
miceandgods: Hello strangers!
Jun 24, 2020 13:34:47 GMT 10
Wiggers: Just drank some sodium met accidentally, big night ahead
May 22, 2020 18:14:21 GMT 10
yob: oi ya fuckin nut jobs!! G'day... just chucked a question in a new thread in Craft Brewing
Apr 29, 2020 22:28:42 GMT 10
scottybb: Hi, How does one start a thread?
Apr 22, 2020 17:16:41 GMT 10
MTB: What a newbie mistake to make. Ferm fridge wasn't hitting >16C and couldn't figure out why, heat mat was on constantly.. yeah, probe had fallen out of the fridge. Actual fermenter temp: 28C. Shit.
Apr 15, 2020 10:31:32 GMT 10
spog: Ahh yeah, every time I’ve touched anything near this Shout thingy it’s turned to custard.
Apr 9, 2020 20:45:56 GMT 10